Right-wing political violence is more frequent, deadly than left-wing violence

Fristie Blade

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We all know the facts and any published investigation pointing to the same, but I believe that truth has been so much under fire and the cognitive dissonance so large that we have reached the point where even Ars Technics will get under fire for simply posting a bit of factual information on this topic, just the same way Jimmy Kimmel got canceled "just because".
 
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From our research on extremism, it’s clear that the president’s and Miller’s assertions about political violence from the left are not based on actual facts.
Of course they're not, but they are based on the fascist playbook. Vilify your opponents and accuse them of the crimes you want to commit (or already have) to confuse the public and invigorate your base. We have seen this song and dance in authoritarian governments time and time again.
 
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Remember when that guy in Panama murdered those 2 protestors in cold blood for blocking the road, after their government rammed through some mining deal that was going to decimate an important migratory corridor? You can still go look at the End Wokeness twitter thread where they blamed the victims and posted memes about it. For some reason that's fine, but do the same to their top youth propagandist and they'll plunge us into 1984 at record pace.
 
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By contrast, U.S. law bars the government from labeling domestic political organizations as terrorist entities because of First Amendment free speech protections.

But he’ll do it anyway because no-one is stopping him.

He just declared Antifa to be a ‘major terrorist organisation’. So get used to even more people being arrested, intimidated and harassed.

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Without criticizing the content of the article, which is very good, I'd just like to know why this is on Ars. Not sure how it relates to science or technology.
It may not directly pertain to science or tech, but it is absolutely important to get this information out there. America needs to have some real conversations, and Ars is part of that (we all are.)

And besides, the bigger, more generalized news sources are too busy firing people for displeasing the regime.
 
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Wait, you mean the same subculture that fetishizes guns, is over-represented in the military, and feels left behind by society is the subculture trying to get even? I'm shocked!

The peak of left wing violence was the Black Panther/Weather Underground era; those parts of society are doing much better now. The redneck recession is going to put more people out of work and trump's violent grievance rhetoric is going to inspire them to shoot more Republicans.
 
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Please don't spear me, but it seems weird to this Canadian that it's gotten to the point down there where there's even debates on which kind of violence is better or worse, and not that there's violence in the first place.
I am also Canadian and this is not shocking in the slightest. If you've been paying attention to US news in the past 20 years you should have seen this coming. And frankly give it a few years and expect to see more of it here at home too.
 
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donfelipe

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A huge swath of the US will blame literally anything but the guns, including words.

A gun is a mass murder machine. It’s literally insane to treat them as anything other than such.

To take a page from the anti-abortion people, just keep passing laws against gun ownership. Break the culture by making it illegal for minors to use weapons and impose strict penalties on parents who provide any access to firearms.
 
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Please don't spear me, but it seems weird to this Canadian that it's gotten to the point down there where there's even debates on which kind of violence is better or worse, and not that there's violence in the first place.
Couple points to make here.

A) The current administration and their party are explicitly trying to paint political violence in the US as an almost exclusively left-wing phenomenon. This is a blatant lie, and needs to be called out.

B) Prioritization is a basic function of triage. This is not a function of "better or worse." If my curtains are slightly on fire, while your house is completely burning down and spreading to the entire neighborhood, who gets the firetruck?
 
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But he’ll do it anyway because no-one is stopping him.

He just declared Antifa to be a ‘major terrorist organisation’. So get used to even more people being arrested, intimidated and harassed.

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Since Antifa isn't an actual organized anything, they're basically writing a blank check to treat anyone they deem "Antifa" as extra-judicial.
 
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Just hypothetically, can anyone think of anything more this administration could have even done to use Charlie Kirks death as an authoritarian power grab?
Martial law to suppress the protests when Kirk is given national honors? /s

Given that we are not yet at a fully fledged dictatorship (but are fast approaching it), there is still plenty of room for doing more.
 
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fenris_uy

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It may not directly pertain to science or tech, but it is absolutely important to get this information out there. America needs to have some real conversations, and Ars is part of that (we all are.)

And besides, the bigger, more generalized news sources are too busy firing people for displeasing the regime.
As a STEM major, I make fun of the social sciences, but they are still sciences. Studying human behavior is a science.
 
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theotherjim

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Seriously. Why is this on Ars?
If you RTFA you will notice many references to studies, academics, databases, and similar accoutrements of the scientific endeavor, in this case as applied to the scientific study of violent extremism. Does that clear it up for you?
 
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We're really doing the speedrun to Idiocracy, aren't we?

No. That is an insult to President Camacho.

Idiocracy had a president who might have been incredibly under-educated or mis-educated, but at the end of the day, still wanted to do good at some level (figure out why all the crops were dying and save people).

Our current president is malicious, vindictive, and spiteful. If he could kill the crops to "own the libs" this administration would make it happen.
 
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fenris_uy

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Just hypothetically, can anyone think of anything more this administration could have even done to use Charlie Kirks death as an authoritarian power grab?
Canceling a TV show because the host said that the current administration is using this assassination for an authoritarian power grab?
 
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Kimmel gets pulled from the air for such comments and Ars pushes more left leaning assumptions. A quick Grok search would have yielded Timothy McVeigh was not associated with either party. He was briefly with the KKK, which was born in the aftermath of civil war in the democratic south. He was also part of the Aryan Nation. Born from Germany during WW2, under the "National Socialist German Workers' Party". Although called another alt right wing, last time I checked, all the socialist where in the left side party. Bernie Sanders seems to be the lead example.

To whomever decided to run this article though, hats off, balls of steel.


McVeigh's (lack of) party association has nothing on the planet earth to do with anything. His views are what made him right-wing, not his party affiliation. Next you're going to tell me that North Korea is a democracy because their name is "Democratic People's Republic of Korea"
 
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