The Electric Car Thread

[Skoop]

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For the sake of simplicity and by popular request, here is the catch-all thread for general discussion of electric cars.

From a report to the mods:

a: the majority of the discussion isn't about tesla or its cars.

b: the majority of the discussion of tesla cars that does happen is lounge material, with no particular relevance to the observatory.

c: the discussion in the Model S thread, in particular, is completely off the rails.

So, since some players aren't subs, the thread stays here and not the Lounge. Also, these scattered threads are a pain to moderate.

Electric cars free-for-all. Go for it.

 

[Skoop]

This could only happen with autopilot. A human driver tends to brake before losing control.

Open youtube.

Search for "russian dashcam videos".

Watch about a million examples of what you say doesn't happen.

 

[Skoop]

Not all bus-riding experiences are the same.

 

[Skoop]

hard to convey the practicalities of living with an EV to non-EV owners.

Makes me think of the criticisms of electric cars that were voiced here several years ago when the discussion got started in earnest. You couldn't go very far, it took too long to charge, and you couldn't carry a sofa in one.

 

[Skoop]

They kept fantasizing about FCEVs long after the trajectory of battery prices was super obvious.

The next BetaMax (in the personal vehicle world)?

 

[Skoop]

Emkorial lives on in this current discussion.

 

[Skoop]

I mean, come now, we all admit there are many uses cases for which only a specific vehicle or vehicle type is going to work, how many edge cases tho, are we trying to get at here?

Emkorial lives!

 

[Skoop]

I guess it's only in the red states that people are buying up all those trucks.

You haven't been in LA recently, have you?

 

[Skoop]

No I haven't.

People are buying trucks for their personal cars over CUVs, SUVs?

Yup, tons of midsize and fullsize pickups for daily drivers, on both coasts.

And just as many or more that are actually work trucks.

The Tesla truck will be wildly popular with the California truck bros. Look for them with enormous chrome wheels and skinny tires. They'll sell a million of them there.

 

[Skoop]

Sure the limited range would stick out but for everyday driving it would appeal to a lot of people.

How far this discussion has come from the first Tesla thread in this forum.

In which limited range was a death blow, and, it was claimed, absolutely no one in their right mind would buy one. Because you'd get stranded. You couldn't commute normally. You couldn't go on vacation. You couldn't load your sofa/loveseat and move it across town.

 

[Skoop]

WaPo isn't very truthful about SpaceX, either.

 

[Skoop]

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Guest moderator here. Any more off-topic excursions into capacitors and DRAM size and I will lock this thread until zeo gets here and sorts this out.

Peldor: take the rest of the day off!

 

[Skoop]

but the bus also requires a mechanical system to raise and lower the pantograph that is in one of the worst places available:

Pretty common here in Europe. It's spring loaded up, with a rope attached and tied to the back of the bus. If the arm swings and the connection is broken, the driver gets out, pulls it down on the rope, pulls it over into position, lets it back up, and that's it.

 

[Skoop]

I wish I could remember the details, but I remember reading about some beef regulation the FDA wanted to pass

FDA does not regulate beef. That would be USDA.

FDA does, however, regulate animal feeds.

 

[Skoop]

Trading in and used cars talk made me wonder: does Tesla, without dealerships and with an online business, do trade ins when you buy from them? If so, how does that work?

 

[Skoop]

Vehicle carriers don't require longshore cranes to unload. They have dedicated docks, moor at them, and ground staff drive the cars off to a local lot.

 

[Skoop]

Take it to the Soap Box, or the Tyranny Yellow comes out.

 

[Skoop]

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Most of the back and forth of the last several pages has strayed from electric vehicle discussion to politics, procurement, and general truck design. Off topic.

Now, there's a Front Page article for this, so segue over to there to continue, please.

Back to Electric Car talk, per favore.

 

[Skoop]

Thread reported to the moderators:

"Can we get this thread re-railed back onto EVs instead of ICEs and their floor mats?"

Please do.