Why did the model 3 thread get locked? There is a ton of very valuable Model 3 specific discussions still going on.
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It will be very interesting to see what the VW Group comes up with by their self-imposed 2020 timeline. As I've said in the Tesla threads, if they can come up with a 50-100 mile usable EV range vehicle plus a REX I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
The 50-100 mile range would cover like 90% of my driving, and the REX could let me drive long distances. They've already got the eTron in Europe and they let you pick what mode you want the REX in, IIRC you can set it to "Auto, Prefer REX, prefer EV, and "Battery Charge""
The 50-100 mile range would cover like 90% of my driving, and the REX could let me drive long distances. They've already got the eTron in Europe and they let you pick what mode you want the REX in, IIRC you can set it to "Auto, Prefer REX, prefer EV, and "Battery Charge""
I would rather go full-ebike after driving a Leaf.
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Regarding range extenders, I'm not so sure. From my point of view I already have a great range extender: my other car. I don't need another. As long as EVs are expensive, they're going to primarily appeal to people who live in multiple car households. That won't be true eventually, but short term, I think it will be given the economics.
Problem is that current cars with range extenders aren't that attractive.
That is actually the point I was making. Range extenders aren't attractive if you have a second car that runs off of gasoline because you are unlikely to ever need two unlimited range vehicles at the same time.
I think they mean physical attractiveness. Both 9f those are ugly. Rex or no rex
I didn't know anyone bought those! The lease deals were so crazy low it seemed silly not to,
Pretty much every auto manufacturer has added start-stop which they've had in the rest of the world for quite some time to combat fuel loss when the vehicle is not moving
Pretty much every auto manufacturer has added start-stop which they've had in the rest of the world for quite some time to combat fuel loss when the vehicle is not moving
I thought I was going to be on topic and now suddenly I am about to go on a tangent...
I have wondered, what happens with your acceleration, if your gas car isn't actually running when you step on the go pedal? Is there a noticeable delay? Mustn't there be? Because how can the car know you're about to go if it's just sitting there, turned off? Surely there must be some amount of time needed for the engine to restart. I have never driven a car that does this so I really have no idea.
If it's a manual as soon as the clutch goes down. For an auto as soon as your foot comes off the brake. Most start fast enough it's not an issue.
There's all kinds of stuff why it won't go into auto shutdown. In Audi's the dash will show the A logo with the crank circle around it with a line through it signifying the car would have shutdown but something is preventing it (Battery voltage, temp, climate control demands, etc)
48v is just for the traction battery. You still have a DC-DC converter in place of an alternator to charge/power the 12v system.
Almost all hybrid vehicles use the electric drive motor as a combination starter, so that's nothing new.
Almost all hybrid vehicles use the electric drive motor as a combination starter, so that's nothing new.
The massive amount of stuff that simply does not yet work shows how under done the design is. Removing the wiper controls from the wheel seems dangerous and just not smart design.
The more I read the more I think I'm going to wait for a German equivalent.
The more I read the more I think I'm going to wait for a German equivalent.
And from everything I've read it's hurried in a few menus.
Adaptive cruise is nice, my wife's edge has it but yeah changing the gap should be a single physical button.
The landscape display and no info in front of the driver are another huge miss for me.
Adaptive cruise is nice, my wife's edge has it but yeah changing the gap should be a single physical button.
The landscape display and no info in front of the driver are another huge miss for me.
Reports indicate that it will thermally manage the battery even when not plugged in
So will a Tesla, only for hot though (because cold doesn't really matter, and it will limit power input/output). If the SOC is high enough and the battery temp gets dangerously high it will kick the cooling system on for the battery.
HV. It has something like 12kW of cooling capacity.
I don’t think even Audi could figure out how to incorporate failure-prone and inaccessible timing chains into an EV. And you know they’d try.
Okay I laughed pretty hard at that.
I've driven cars with off center clusters (Toyota Echo most notably) and I find it garbage. I also very strongly dislike the landscape display. I've read reviews already that very tall people (aka me) are banging their knees on the display. While I expect them to make the software a lot better, they suffer from the Google "Oooh Shiny!" problem. The software in a model S (mostly infotainment related) is still complete garbage compared to even the most basic of other vehicles.
At this point I don't think I fit either of Tesla's target markets. A S/X is far too expensive, and a 3 isn't anywhere near as nice as a similar 40-60k German vehicle.
There's nothing wrong with my A4 at the moment, assuming that stays the same I'll probably grab a BEV/BEV+REX version of an A4/A6 when they arrive in the US.
I vastly prefer Audi's MMI to Android Auto. My only interaction in it was in a loaner A4, which means no touchscreen but the knob interface of MMI is so much easier to use.
IIRC they default to 80% unless you hit "Max Range"
Early model S drive unit failures were indeed a lack of lube but it was not cosmetic. They failed. Recently I've seen a few that developed an internal coolant leak and the whole drive unit had to be replaced as it is not a serviceable part.
I joke that I don't know what tires cost because I typically buy something new before I need them.
That's how my dad traded his ~2006 S80 for a 2016 S80. It needed a few grand worth of work that would "probbly" fix the issue, and the dealer was trying to get the S80's out because the S90's were coming in, and he decided it was just easier to not deal with the 10 year old vehicle that was only going to have more issues.
This is why an old Chevrolet is much better than an old Audi.
Only for cost.
If you're talking about keeping an old beater running, cost is all there is. A piece of shit Audi is no better looking or performing than a piece of shit Chevy. The idea is for poor folks to be able to afford a vehicle. We're not talking about keeping cherry cars running, just old beaters.
Strougly disagree. The audi will always look better and perform better. Just because they are old doesn't make the audi worse than the Chevy.
Also VW group is the world's largest manufacturer. 5% is quite a bit.
umm, emissions cheating software!And will any older Audi diesels pass emissions?
Probably. They're tested to the standards they were released to, not modern standards, and how you test a diesel makes a huge, huge difference in passing (especially if all it's using is the opacity snap test).
If your injectors aren't completely trashed, you've got marginal compression, and the turbo still makes boost, an older diesel is going to pass. Especially if tested by someone who has a bit of respect for older engines and doesn't, say, bounce an old 7.3 International off the rev limiter.
The EPA never mandated a fix. A cheating VW TDI (MY 09-15) is legal and will pass any state smog/emissions that are compliant with the model year of the vehicle.
The intent over the lawsuit was never to punish consumers, which denying smog/registration/etc would have done.
IIRC Fedex has a small number of serial hybrid turbine vehicles. Effectively the truck is a BEV and the turbine acts as a REX. The computer powers it up to recharge the battery when it deems necessary.
At some point the desire for something new or innovative is more worth it to someone. Clearly many someone's.
I find it more interesting how they like the 3 more than the S. Not what you want to hear when comparing a 40k and 100k vehicle.
I find it more interesting how they like the 3 more than the S. Not what you want to hear when comparing a 40k and 100k vehicle.
I don't think ICE cars have gotten quieter in the past 5 years or so.
They have. Combined with the fact that many vehicles now will shutdown at idle to save fuel making zero noise.
Seems crazy. You already have to be inside the frunk to get to it.
I strongly think one of the top reasons the Model S did so well is because it looked like a nice luxury sedan and not a Leaf or i3. Those manufactures thought they had to stand out on looks and not technology, and failed very badly.
When VW/Audi manages to start selling BEV/BEV+REX vehicles in the US GM is going to be crushed and Tesla's low end will too.
When VW/Audi manages to start selling BEV/BEV+REX vehicles in the US GM is going to be crushed and Tesla's low end will too.
eGolf was/is a compliance car and can't really be considered a production BEV.
certainly nobody actually wants a Tesla, it’s all just a bunch of brainwashed sheep.
Plenty of people do, because it's the only mass market, available, long range EV that really exists. As soon as there are legitimate contenders it will be very interesting to see how it plays out.
It competes pretty decently with all of the other 80-10k SUVs from Audi, BMW, Mercades. Just like the Model S. Nobody is buying a 100k Model S instead of a Camry, but if you were already going to buy a 7 series, or A7 or something, it fits a lot of the same checklist.
How quickly are they going to run out of the EV credit?
The issue is delivery time on the Model 3. You can "shop" one today but you might not get it until the credit has expired.
And that's why I think that many people won't get their tax credit at all, with another very large chunk only getting a reduced one.
Right. As soon as the manufacturer hits the limit the clock starts running. And being production constrained on the 3 isn't good.
At that point you now have people switching to options to get their cars sooner hoping they don't miss the credit. Which is based on the date you take possession.
At that point you now have people switching to options to get their cars sooner hoping they don't miss the credit. Which is based on the date you take possession.
ChaDeMo is also basically dead. Everyone is moving to CCS (more or less)
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